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Kat Lehman @hbarycenter
15:21:4

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Kat Lehman @hbarycenter
15:21:4

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Christian Holman
15:50:43

Where is the latest on the token distribution? Has anything been done to preserve the value of the coin?

Christian Holman
15:55:29

Thank you, no other statements other than the announcement of amount?

Crypto Hunter
15:59:39

What info are you looking for? SAFT investors have been offered a sleep easy safety net to ensure that they won't lose money based on their original fiat investment amount, the last of the distributions to 2017 executives / helpers and other staff / vendors from the early days will be entirely done as of tomorrow's 70M distribution, and then it's pretty clear skies. Last week was a SAFT 1 + 2 distribution, with SAFT 1 taking the lion's share of 382M HBAR. SAFT 1 took 301M of that, and SAFT 2 gets ~70M. SAFT 2 has many venture capitalists who are in profit and have passed on the amended distribution schedule, so SAFT 2 will continue to get their monthly distribution of ~70M HBAR each month around the 22/23.

Crypto Hunter
16:2:29

SAFT 1 has many core team members and long term holders, as evidenced by last week's distribution, most of SAFT 1 is not selling and so we don't need to worry too much about them. On top of that, Leemon, Mance, and most of the core team who comprise a large portion of (if not the majority of) SAFT 1 participants, are committed to long term holding to the extent they are negotiating a contracted lock on their personal token shares. Even if they don't have a formal contractual lock on sales from their personal allotments, everyone employed by Hedera is on board to give at least 30-days public notice before selling any of their personal allocations, same as a traditional company's employees can't sell stock without giving public notice. This is another great sign and confirmation that Hedera is doing everything in its power to remain regulatory compliant and above board.

Crypto Hunter
16:3:29

Anyway, going forward we will have: SAFT 1 - 300M every three months SAFT 2 - 70M every month on or around the 22/23 SAFT 3 - ? uncertain the exact amount of HBAR they take, but they get only once a year on the OA anniversary in Sept.

Crypto Hunter
16:5:2

This will go on for another couple of years until all the SAFT tokens are fully vested, at which point remaining HBAR will enter circulation through direct, bulk treasury sales (at market rates, obv.) and subsequent use of HBAR to pay transaction fees, which filter back to node operators / those staking to nodes and the treasury, etc.

Christian Holman
16:5:35

Hmm thank you for all the info, that 1 cent level was scary as hell, not really sure I want to be invested in HBAR around early distribution times, was there talk of a stablecoin on top of hedera? Cause the network is mostly what I'm a fan of.

Christian Holman
16:5:50

How much of the 50B is actually going to be distributed to early investors?

Crypto Hunter
16:7:27

I don't know the total amount, but I'm not even remotely concerned about the tokenomics. Not only are Leemon and many of them genius math guys, so I'm confident they wouldn't f'k the pooch on token count by picking 50B out of thin air, but the tokenomics have also been examined by a third party company that was hired after OA when the SAFT investors, from 3a / 3b particularly, started panicking about the price drops.

Crypto Hunter
16:8:54

The consensus, after thorough examination of the token count and distribution schedule is that it is sound and doesn't need to be radically altered. There is no need to burn HBAR to reduce supply, and in fact they have made the ongoing distribution of HBAR more flexible so that if / when network usage grows and demand spikes, they can release the remaining HBAR in accordance with need.

Crypto Hunter
16:9:54

Leemon and Mance will also, ultimately, each hold 5% of the HBAR supply, a cool 2.5B HBAR each.

Crypto Hunter
16:10:41

They are as invested in Hedera as anyone—in fact, more so, and that's yet another reassuring vote of confidence.

Christian Holman
16:12:38

Maybe if we go into a recession people will start moving over to crypto again in the next 1/2 years. That would be a crazy alt season, and I'm sure HBAR would stand at the front.

Crypto Hunter
16:13:10

I'm still pretty dang bullish about the aggregate crypto markets going forward through 2020 and 2021.

Crypto Hunter
16:13:26

Despite present market conditions, I could see us winding up in a mega bull run later this year or next.

Crypto Hunter
16:13:30

We'll see.

The Zugzwanged
16:13:57

Is is possible to restore my current wallet using seed to a ledger nano? If not, is this functionality coming, or should I just get a new wallet and send the coins to.the ledger that way?

Crypto Hunter
16:14:52

Did you previously set up your wallet with your ledger?

The Zugzwanged
16:17:23

No

Crypto Hunter
16:27:9

I believe you need to set up a new wallet on your ledger in that case. You can PM me if you'd like and I will assist you.

Геворг Минасян
16:28:21

What's the matter with hbar?

Геворг Минасян
16:28:34

Any bad news?

Crypto Hunter
16:28:47

Nope.

Crypto Hunter
16:28:54

HBAR is solid. 👌

Геворг Минасян
16:29:14

Every shit is pumping but hbar is week

Ishan, Blockchain Research
16:29:16

@hbarycenterplease see dm work related

Satya Phoenix
16:29:20

+

Геворг Минасян
16:32:50

What that means?

Winston Wolf | Solve problems
16:58:41

Advisors, employees, vendors and contractors whose tokens to be released tomorrow are always first to dump their bags. They dont care of any project, their strategy is simple - dump and go find next one 😎

Kat Lehman @hbarycenter
17:15:35

I have contacted Christian Hasker HH Chief Marketing Officer regarding your message to me

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Hi

Геворг Минасян
17:26:6

😳

Crypto Hunter
17:32:10

It doesn't really matter if they sell or hold tomorrow, they're only getting 70M.

Crypto Hunter
17:32:50

Roughly the same amount SAFT 2 got. After distribution last week ~80M changed hands in short order on the exchange, a bit more in the 24 hours after.

Crypto Hunter
17:33:44

The sky didn't fall, the world didn't collapse.

Crypto Hunter
17:34:8

Present employees of Hedera won't sell if they are receiving any of the distribution tomorrow, not without giving at least 30 days notice.

Crypto Hunter
17:34:28

Details for all this are in Mance Harmon's Jan 27th blog post on Hedera's main site.

Carte Dree
17:39:51

No, that's only pertaining to Mance and Leemon personally. As the biggest shill you should be able to convey this very basic information.

Carte Dree
17:41:8

Not that anyone with an IQ above 100 holds you in particularly high regard..

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Zorro Pai
18:38:26

Hi, can you explain me how you can have privacy when you have to make KYC to get a account?

Crypto Hunter
19:4:18

You do not need to go through KYC if you just want an account to store and transfer HBAR.

Zorro Pai
19:4:50

What do I need KYC for?

Crypto Hunter
19:4:52

If you're a dev or you want to participate in internal testing with Hedera, then you have to go through KYC for legal reasons.

Crypto Hunter
19:5:9

You can set up a non-KYC wallet / account in just a few minutes.

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Kendra
21:29:56

In business suites*

Kendra
21:31:34

Way too much

Kendra
21:31:57

People often assume project founder = good actor

Kendra
21:32:31

In a proof of stake network I don't believe a founder should hold more than 1% (that is plenty)

That’s very generous of you. You’re suggesting that the inventors aren’t entitled to more than 1% of the proceeds from their creation?

Kendra
21:50:30

1% stake in a pos network is plenty

Han |
21:51:8

Says who?

Says Kendra.

😂

Crypto Hunter
22:1:26

If you can't trust the guys who are building the trust layer of the internet, well...

Kendra
22:2:6

Shouldn't need to trust anyone

Kendra
22:2:46

To assume that a founder has the best intentions is silly

Kendra
22:3:3

I am a founder, therefore you can trust me.. lol

Kendra
22:3:19

Trust will not be a variable in the future

Kendra
22:3:29

Accountability will take its place

Crypto Hunter
22:3:41

A solid chunk of that 5% each will hold when they are done with SAFT vesting rounds comes from the fact Mance and Leemon both put their money where their mouth was. They invested in their own startup at the beginning, why shouldn't they be permitted to reap the rewards? Both are long term holders and will lock their token allocations by contract and/or alert the public 30 days before any sales.

Kendra
22:4:40

If Hedera becomes something great I'm sure that owning 1% of the supply would be beyond 'rewarding'.

Kendra
22:5:20

I love when people speak for others as if they know them personally.

Yea, it’s also great when people only speak in generalizations and pull imaginary baseless numbers from thin air.

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Kendra
22:15:31

In a proof of stake network it is best if the token supply is well distributed. If two people possess 10% of the power, that's not good.

Kendra
22:16:18

There is no reason for two people to have that much power, simply because the founded the project.

Kendra
22:16:30

Network security does not care about who founded the project.

Kendra
22:18:16

Of course, in the early days this is not a problem. If Hedera was worth Trillions of Dollars (example) I think that might be a bit of a problem.

Kendra
22:18:41

Everyone feels so comfortable in the early days of crypto.

Kendra
22:18:49

That's cute.

They'll need to sell some for lambo anytime

Kendra
22:20:27

When we start to see networks being attacked (as Steem recently was), there will be a demand for greater decentralization.

What does it take to attack the network? Just 51% of supply?

Kendra
22:33:9

Of the voting power

Kendra
22:35:17

Leemon Baird is probably not a malicious person, obviously. But I don't like that founders rewards are so high. If Hedera is going to be a massively successful network (one of the few) then even 1% would make the founders multi-billionaires.

Kendra
22:35:46

5% is a bit high for a single person.

Kendra
22:36:24

But if they invested using their own money then it is what it is.

Kendra
22:36:55

Although.. they didn't exactly pay the same prices as the majority lol

Kendra
22:38:32

Sometimes I get confused.. I always believed that the project itself is more important than the founders.. silly me for thinking that

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Whofus
22:48:29

any message

“Just”?

Did Kendra delete all the Trolling comments or the entire account? There is no escape from Teleconsensus...

I'm a big baller....🙄

Hi everyone, do you know how to get information of which saft series that you invest into? I forgot

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Brandon
1:25:9

It’s been the case for the past dozen or so distributions that the fear of the distribution is more of a factor than the distribution it self. Tomorrow is a small distribution compared to the 22nd, not sure about the groups propensity to sell though. After that though is some clear sky’s so I expect an early April rise...if the economy and markets don’t implode, which I don’t completely discount.